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Second Class Citizens

17 years 11 months ago #117279 by Rockne
Replied by Rockne on topic RE: Second Class Citizens

Originally posted by ademom74:
A school secretary!!! (note my incredulity here). Really, how much power does she have? Can she somehow effect your childrens education?

In my experience: 1) can be a lot. 2) yes, definitely.

Tim

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17 years 11 months ago #117278 by ademom74
Replied by ademom74 on topic RE: Second Class Citizens
What kind of nonsense are you dealing with? The school secretary makes you jump through hoops... A school secretary!!! (note my incredulity here). Really, how much power does she have? Can she somehow effect your childrens education? In the grand scheme, that is all that matters here. Right? And remember, 'No one can make you feel inferior without your consent' Eleanor Roosevelt.

I agree with others here, I would smile sweetly and never let them see you sweat. Just exactly like you said, you are a parent and you do not have to put up with disrespect and malice. I would sit down with your board and decide exactly what your PTO's mission should be. At our school, our PTO's focus is to serve families.

Good luck.
17 years 11 months ago #117277 by jurijeka
Replied by jurijeka on topic RE: Second Class Citizens
Thanks for all your replies. There has always be tension between the two groups at our school but in the last two years it has gotten much better. I've worked very hard on that. The key is the office secretary. If mama ain't happy, ain't no one happy. She's making our life miserable. She's a longtimer and it's amazing how much power she has in the building. She has issues with our President and I got in the middle trying to fix them. Now I'm on the receiving end of her death rays, too. The principal has an odd way of twisting things around, talking to him just made matters worse.

I used to make time to be in the school everyday. I loved it. Now, we have a rotating schedule with our board so that I only have to go once a week to avoid the mental mind games. I have been on the board for two years and put my heart and soul into it. It feels like a personal blow to me and hurts my heart.

She does this to every board until they can't take the pressure and steps down so she can start over with "newbies" and try to mold them the way she sees fit. I hate to cave to it, but I'm a volunteer. I shouldn't have to put up with the disrespect and malice.
17 years 11 months ago #117276 by diemsellersares
my mother always says kill them with kindness. sometime I think my opponents would be dead with all the kindness and smiles bestowed upon them.

I have a great relationship thank goodness. a few hiccups at first like getting their reimbursements in a timely manner. she said the "last pto got them to me in 3 days!" I politely smile and say "thank you for being so patient as our new board learns each position. I know it's so hard to keep on top of things when many of our parents that volunteer work a full time job!". This is a new board and we welcome any suggestions as we learn our jobs! [img]smile.gif[/img]

I haven't heard peep from her since!

We have monthly staff luncheons serving 105!

keep them informed with your PTO newsletter.

give prize encentives for your meetings. get them involved. I added mine to the agenda and physically asked them how things are going from each grade level. it gives them a voice and not just a teacher coming to ask for money.

in your case, leave them notes.... Dear Teachers, I hope you enjoyed the cookies donated by our busy but loving parents and supportive local businesses!

signed.... your loving PTO and add a happy smiley face.

say to them "good morning!". sometimes they are so engrossed in their own day or are just not used to someone doing nice things for them.

good luck and keep us posted!
diem
17 years 11 months ago #117275 by PresidentJim
Boy, that sounds like a very difficult situation. Luckily I can't say that I'm finding the same problems at my school, but things are never 100% the way you would like them.

I will say that at the elementary school that I am the PTO President of, we almost never have a teacher at the monthly meetings. Sure, once in a while we'll get one to come by, but for the most part they do not. We usually get around 2 or 3 at one of the fun events that we have, for example the roller-skating parties, and this is great.

But, whenever we do something for the staff, such as providing a meal during the Parent/Teacher Conference nights, we almost always get a couple of thank you cards showing their appreciation.

Some of the things that I do to try to promote the positive relationships that we have are:

1. I always post the thank yous from both staff and parents to the PTO Office door (yes, our Principal has actually provided us our own office), which can be seen by anyone who walks by.

2. I send out monthly, colored Newsletters, which is new this year. Numerous teachers have come up to me to express how they never knew just how much we do for the school and the staff.

3. The day before school starts we hold a teacher appreciation lunch, and we try to provide them a token of appreciation, in addition to the meal itself. For evey new staff member we provide a school logo bag, umbrella and water bottle. This year we had a new item, a school logo car magnet. I printed up weather proof labels, which I adhered to each magnet (Teacher, Librarian, Music, Art, Principal, etc.) and each staff member was provided one of these. I think this also helps instill school spirit.

4. I have instituted the practice that if a teacher wants something from the PTO they need to come to a meeting to present it. There's actually a part of the agenda for this. For example, field trips are once again allowed at our school (they had not been allowed since 9/11). We allocated a certain amount per student into separate grade funds, but whenever a teacher wants to take the students on a field trip, they need to present it first to the Principal (to get his permission) and then at the committee meeting. I know that all teachers can't make a meeting, so any representative (other than the Principal who attends every meeting) would suffice.

Some examples of what we have approved this year: a 32" flatscreen, color TV for the Library. Initially the Librarian was looking for just a mounting bracket for the existing, 15 year old, 25" tv, but the cost was so much (due to the weight of the CRT tv) that we offered to provide a bit more in order to upgrade to the lighter, bigger, flatscreen.

The second grade requested that instead of a field trip they would like to invite an educational enrichment program into the school to put on the "Little Red Riding Hood", which we of course approved.

The music teacher asked if we would replace the damaged CD player, which was used during classes.

I think the point is that by promoting what we do and what we can do for the staff, children and the school in general; the appreciation level of the staff increases monumentally.

I realize that my situation is much different than yours, so my best recommendation would be to try a PTO teacher newsletter. This way you're not trying to put out 500 fliers a month (like I'm dealing with - it is tough by the way), but 50 or so would be enough (depending on the amount of teachers/staff at the school). Put in it everything that the PTO is doing for the school, with a special focus on the things done for teacher appreciation. Put thank yous in there for the parents who baked items for the teachers, the committee members who dedicated time to teacher appreciation. Items that may have been purchased by the PTO for the staff. Anything of this nature. Name teachers who may have attended a PTO event or that did something special for their class. Also try to do it in color if possible. People would much rather read colored information fliers than black and white. This isn't even something that you would need to do monthly, just maybe once a quarter or every other month. You're bound to impress a few of the staff members and maybe those who don't realize just how much the PTO does will start to!!!

Good luck.

-Jim
17 years 11 months ago #117274 by <123>
Replied by <123> on topic RE: Second Class Citizens
we have many politics between the differenet groups and new things come up all the time, it is human nature most likely and to be expected. the way issues are solved is the principal hanldes the probelms that come up between the P and T to keep the peace and things marching forward andnot backward. its great to have that type of leadership.
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