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PTO member causing trouble for incoming board

17 years 5 months ago #133710 by beignets
How are the public schools in your area? Could you consider a move?
At least, THEYhave set rules to enforce and you as a parent, have avenues for recourse if they turn a blind eye to egregious behaviors or conducts. From all youve said, it strikes me as funny to know many parents who are currently trying to move from public to private schools if they can thinking private is better, better education, etc., more rules and controls and better behaved kids, when in fact, reality is sometimes quite the opposite because private ones can 'make their own rules up' it seems, or are much more flexible.
again, good luck, its not an insurmountable problem. One would think that at a parochial schooll, adults would have more ethics than some of the actions you have described.
17 years 5 months ago #133703 by CLL40
[QUOTE=beignets;133702And no one can harrass you in the parking lot unless you hang around long enough to listen to them.[/QUOTE]

That's why I make a point of doing my paperwork pick up in office at the end of the day. .;)

The administration needs to do more, I agree. I brought up the sports conduct issue being applied to all school events. . .they (pastor and principal) were supposed to bring it up at a meeting--and they did, but those that needed to hear it were not there. They've never followed through with a Code of Conduct for parents for all events; behavior in the school, treatment of children, treatment of other parents, etc. .The code for sports spectator conduct is cut and dry--you show unsportmanlike conduct at a school sporting event (threatening coaches, other players, refs) and you're banned from the game, being a volunteer, attending school evets --meaning no chaperoning, etc. . that's the code but it only applies to sports. I would like to see it apply to all school events. . there should be some consequences for rude behavior--like screaming confrontations on school property, vulgar name calling, favoring some children in class while ignoring others, treating parents or staff who are working or running an event rudely.

Right now--our current principal is leaving (and has already mentally left), our new principal is aware of the dynamics, but questions about how she'll deal with them are up in the air. Our pastor says he won't tolerate it, but he's allowed them to run rough-shod for too long, and actions speak louder than words. We'll see. ..
17 years 5 months ago #133702 by beignets
"The school had ample opportunity to boot them when they verbally attacked the pastor in public, the principal numerous times, and various teachers. "

Sounds like you have a management problem at that school. A head of school should not tolerate such activity.

I agree with dlf that schools should take care of the kids and not the adults, but when adults actions affect the school, other parents or kids on school outings like field trips, they are fully within their authority to take measures as they see fit. Like, disallow thier coming on trips and such. After all, it boils down to welfare of the kids....these parents' actions when they are around the kids for volunteering reasons.

good luck. and no one can harrass you in the parking lot unless you hang around long enough to listen to them.
17 years 5 months ago #133701 by CLL40
parking lot is school property. dont know about private schools though.}}}

One lot is, one lot isn't. . that's part of the problem. When they've intimidated parents, it's been on the lot that's not school property. Like I said, they just step up to the line. .

We're all tired of it--school administration, etc. .. . . they're nasty not just to me and other officers they don't like, they're nasty to moms who are NOT politically involved in the school, who have NEVER done anything to them, but are friends of and help those who they don't like. Stupid childish stuff--like "if you're her friend, you can't be mine." Grow up.

The school had ample opportunity to boot them when they verbally attacked the pastor in public, the principal numerous times, and various teachers. In fact, one even told her middle school kid it was OK to be rude to teachers, because of who she was in the school at the time. I just learned that one recently; that teachers have been stressed out by members of this trio and their posse. I'm hoping the new administration will get in their faces and tell them--knock it off, or get out.
17 years 5 months ago #133699 by dlf
I don't think it is the school's responsibility to get grown adults to play nicely (especially volunteers in the PTO mode). You should, however, in your bylaws have a section that allows you to take membership from another member if there are agreggious reasons to do so. I don't think the school has any official power over harrassment etc off school grounds but would certainly keep records of the calls, conversations and then I would file a police report. School officials are supposed to be handling the children--not the grown ups...
I suspect the school is as tired of this childishness as you are.
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17 years 5 months ago #133698 by beignets
parking lot is school property. dont know about private schools though.

what i dont udenerstand is why the head of schoolhasnt booted certain kids from the school. it happens all the time at private schools. they dont necessarily boot the kids, its the parents thy are booting. they hav ultimate control over thier school population, the heads of private schools.
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