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HELP! PTO President not in control!

21 years 2 months ago #98283 by TheMetzyMom
Replied by TheMetzyMom on topic RE: HELP! PTO President not in control!
As a past pres who 'took control', let me offer my two cents (okay, maybe three and a half cents is more like it...lol).

First, you are going to make people angry. You may loose friends. For a while... Think of your group like a new captain thinks of a ship, because that is just about the story in a nutshell. When the new captain comes aboard, there is always change. Especially when things are out of control or just plain old unorganized. Tough Love is not called Tough Love for no reason. In my case, I made a lot of enemies because I shook things up from the very start. I put tougher restrictions on almost everything, especially the bank accounts. I began with a membership of about 8, increased it to an attending membership of about 40 while also including folks who couldn't attend meetings. Most of the eight left because they didn't feel they were getting enough say. In the past they 'felt' that they were more in charge because the pres before me made them feel that they were making all the calls, when in fact she and the veep made all the decisions and were able (she was an expert at this...) to 'steer' them to the decisions she and the veep had already made. I was not as smooth, but they were actually getting more say than they ever had before and just didn't realize it. I set up a monthly meeting with the board to go over what would be presented (weeding out a lot of the garbage that when researched was worthless info for our group or our area). Instead of presenting 25 items, I had the board narrow it down to 3 or 4 'like' items. I set up committees, which had never been done. I just wasn't able to 'candy coat' things, didn't allow for hidden agendas, just said 'no' to cliques, etc. Needless to say I was not very popular with a lot of the old timers (all 8 of them...lol). Advice? Don't try to change it all at once. Try to walk a fine line between candy coating things and making actual change, but be firm in asserting your authority. You were elected for a reason. Somebody wanted change or you wouldn't be in your position now.

That brings me to my second point. Even if there appears to be chaos in the ranks, don't think that you are alone. Believe me when I say that even though it doesn't always look like you have support, trust me, you do. They may not be standing up with you in the public forum, but the support is there.

Third... It may just be me, but sometimes you just have to put your foot down. Just like with children, sometimes you have to put your foot down. Hard. Choose your battles, but once you have chosen your stand, Just Do It. Whether it be over the checkbook, fundraising, events, or whatever, you are in charge. You were voted in to be the one in charge, so Be The One In Charge. Next year, no one is going to remember what the teacher who went above your head did, but they are going to remember what you did or did not do. If at the end of the year you find that you are unpopular but made good decisions for the group, so be it. I may not have been very good at pleasing all the parents, but I assure you that the children all remember me and the things that were made possible during my year as pres. The teachers remember my year now, two years later, as remarkable because it set our group up correctly for the future. People who didn't like me very much then, now come to me for advice.

So... Hang in there. Fix everything that you can, because this is your shot. Don't quit unless you are willing for things to stay the same. Stand your ground. It may be hard for you right now, but think about the future of the group, the future of the school, and mostly, the future of the children. Remember that not everyone likes the captain, but it is because of the captain that a ship sails smoothly out at sea.

Good Luck!
21 years 2 months ago #98282 by LUVMYKIDS
I'm afraid I'm going to have to join the "get control" bandwagon. There is nothing that drives members away faster than feeling they have no say in any of the decisions. If it takes going through the by-laws, etc. line by line at a general meeting, than so be it, but you need to get things down in writing. Membership needs to be voting on matters such as what events to hold and which fundraisers to pursue. Feeling like things are being forced down their throat will soon make them sour on anything the PTO has its name on.
As for the check writing thing-has she read all of the news articles over the last few years about treasurers embezzling funds? Being that controlling over the checkbook, makes her look suspicious even if she is on the up and up. All receipts and expenditures should be presented at every meeting to at least the board. The books should be audited every year, and any member who has questions about the finances should have access to the budget and a copy of receipts and expenditures.
You will probably make some people angry, but you HAVE to get your organization under control and make sure the MEMBERSHIP is making decisions.

Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat.
21 years 2 months ago #98281 by Pres88
Replied by Pres88 on topic RE: HELP! PTO President not in control!
You need to get control. I would start by checking the by-laws but your PTO is set up very different from ours. Ours state that the president is to over see everyrthing and is part of every commitee if they want to be. Our board is only 5 people including the principal. No teacher holds an elected position although they could if they wanted to. Every parent and teacher are members of the PTO, this results in just working in the school or having a student. We do not have a Board of Directors, it is hard enough to get people to run for office. Also we do not have insurance, the district has a policy to cover everyone for school events.

Since you are set up very different I do not know what will happen. At our school, the principal would not let any teacher or parent run an event without the full knowledge of the exec. board.

Good luck
21 years 2 months ago #98280 by Michelle B
1st- Two signatures, I would check your insurance policy regarding having two signatures on the checks and whether or not that is required. If it is, you can make the insurance company the heavy and just "relay" the information (PTA insurance in NV requires that the two signature rule be followed or you could be in default)
And correctly, you have every right to request a copy of bank statements and see if the bylaws require the books to be balanced monthly- If so, you need to be part of that since your name as a signor makes you liable.

-Cowboy activities tactics- I believe the best approach is the direct approach. I would politely tell the teacher that you love her ideas and would love to generate more interest in them from the members but can't accomplish that without taking the information to the group first. Be firm but polite and non-accusatory.
-Teacher has to be a Treasurer?? Is this in the bylaws? Is your PTO run out of your school or is it a seperate entity? If you have a seperate bank account, bylaws, and 501c3 status then the Principal can't tell you who you have to have on the board. You can't do anything about who your board members are now but when election times come up, distribute the open seats and requirements for each (be sure to include "Treasurer must be a parent with a child at this school or a teacher who is permanently employed at the school" or some similiar thing. Make certain you distribute them and post them before anyone can say anything about them. This would likely not be a violation of your bylaws.
Stay tough. It's pretty obvious why there's only 8 members. You definately do need to take charge. How about launching a membership campaign? Bring that number up from 8 so that you can be more of a group and less of a dictatorship...
Someone has to stand up or things will never change...
21 years 2 months ago #98279 by kimandkids
Replied by kimandkids on topic RE: HELP! PTO President not in control!
I can only add my two cents ( that's about all the experience I have since we are a new PTO!), but I know in reading through our County's financial policy that when it comes right down to it - the president is responsible for all monies. That is enough for me to know exactly what is going on going out and coming in. I probably have it a lot easier then you being the first president, but I wouldn't give up unless you have absolutely no support from your principal. When our officers were elected this year, there was a "sigh" of relief that the "old boys" were not on the board. I think if you take the reigns, hopefully parental support will come.
21 years 2 months ago #98278 by J Scott
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