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Bingo/Tricky Tray question

19 years 1 month ago #119705 by kmamom
I live in Jersey as well and know that for them to contact you someone would have had to report your activities. It looks like you have an non-admirer in your midst! :(

When my group received its gaming license I asked the Gaming commission what types of games wouldn't require us filing an application. I was told that something like a grab bag wouldn't require filing an application. Since every bag would be worth a minimum of say, $5, and if that's what you were charging to take the "chance" the player is guaranteed to at least get thier money's worth back. The way it was explained to me if someone "pays to play," and there's a chance they win nothing, it's considered a "game of chance" and must be regulated.

I know other schools in Jersey that have Bingo for kids. They charge a cover charge for say, a hotdog/drink combo that comes with two Bingo cards but they don't charge for the actual cards themselves. They also make sure every child walks out with at least one prize. They've never had any problems, and like I said since no money is actually being spent for the game itself I should think this sort of activity is OK. The groups I know that have "children's" Bingo don't use it as a fundraiser.

A Tricky Tray is different since you're paying for tickets, usually in different price brackets and it's highly possible you walk away with nothing. I suppose you could charge a cover fee that's for the food and tickets are "free," but to me that's not worth all the work you put into something like a Tricky Tray. I'd leave a Tricky Tray as an adult event to make sure you maximize they amount of money you make.

[ 10-21-2005, 10:16 PM: Message edited by: kmamom ]
19 years 1 month ago #119704 by writermom
Cherry, How did the state of NJ find out and why is someone tracking this stuff instead of doing something really important and useful?
19 years 1 month ago #119703 by PTOPresCherry
Replied by PTOPresCherry on topic RE: Bingo/Tricky Tray question
DLF- same with us! We actually got "red flagged" doing Candy Bar Bingo. We did not charge a monetary admission, we asked each person in attendance to bring one candy bar per game they wanted to play. We didnt sell anything that night..no money exchanged hands at any point and we got a letter from The State of NJ warning us that we were gambling in the presence of children and we had to STOP IMMEDIATELY. The thing that gets me is, so many other schools in our town still run CANDY BAR BINGO and the kids really miss it. We have a gamlbing license and a raffle license, but they still told us it was illegal to do CNADY BAR BINGO. :(
19 years 1 month ago #119702 by dlf
Replied by dlf on topic RE: Bingo/Tricky Tray question
If ANY money is involved...it's gamblings and no one under 18 can be involved. That's the way we set the limits...d
19 years 1 month ago #119701 by PTAJUDY
Okay..it's my first time trying to do both of these activities. Every elementary school in our town seems to do a Bingo night, and my kids have always had a great time when we went to ones at their old school.

If memory serves me correctly, they charged a small admission fee, and that got you your Bingo Board. The kids won prizes donated by parents.

What I need to know is this...

I'd like to do a Kiddy Tricky Tray, but upon mentioning it, it's already caused quite a stir. This seems to be considered gambling, whereas Bingo isn't? Does this make sense?

Can I just charge an admission which gives each kids a certain number of tickets to use to try to win prizes?

I'm not sure of all the legal issues...I know I need a gambling license for even the Bingo night, but I'd appreciate any advice anyone can offer me.

Thanks in advance for your replies.
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