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Value of Software?

17 years 2 months ago #136658 by bjburke
Replied by bjburke on topic RE: Value of Software?
The PTO Manager servers are behind multiple levels of firewalls at a secure, off-site location that specializes in this type of application.

BJ Burke
17 years 2 months ago #136617 by Dealz4Kidz
Replied by Dealz4Kidz on topic RE: Value of Software?
how safe is the VB and FM offsite (hackers)? We too are having difficulty backing up the cost each year
17 years 2 months ago #136437 by mum24kids
Replied by mum24kids on topic RE: Value of Software?
PTO Manager is a great value. You'd need several other products to duplicate the various features of it. I'm not sure if you're looking at the Volunteer Builder component, Finance Manager, or both.

I've used Volunteer Builder (VB) for a couple of years now. Prior to that, to communicate with my volunteers and track their hours, I was using a combination of an Excel spreadsheet (with frequent use of advanced features such as mail merging), Yahoo! groups, Outlook Express, and an offsite backup service. All this was relatively inexpensive, and it worked, but it was more time consuming and prone to error than VB. Also, I'm a pretty advanced Excel user--when I tried to train my successor at one school on how to use my Excel sheet, she just couldn't get it. VB is much easier for someone who's not real computer literate to figure out. Also, with a large school, sending out emails to the whole volunteer list was an issue because my ISP limited the number of emails I could send out at one time. I was constantly breaking my list up into smaller groups and sending multiple copies of the same email to get to everyone. And with some services, like Earthlink, people had controls in place where they kept blocking our emails. Now, all PTA related correspondence goes through the VB system with a standard email address, so there's one address for people to mark as "safe" no matter which PTA person is actually sending it. All the data is current, so when a chairperson needs someone to bake, for example, I don't have to keep emailing them updated lists of volunteers--they can just go into VB themselves and send a note out to all the people in there at the moment who have offered to bake.

Tracking volunteer hours is required in our district. The VB system of entering them in took roughly the same amount of time that I was taking in my Excel system, but the VB system is more accurate (for reasons too detailed to go into here). We're just now getting ready to start using VB in a way where volunteers and visitors sign in on a computer at school, which will eliminate the need for us to manually count the hours. Comparable sign in systems alone run for twice the price of VB.

Also, everything is web based, so if someone's computer goes down, you haven't lost access to your data. Or, worse, if their hard drive crashes and they haven't backed up, you might lose your data completely--that's not a concern with VB.

The web access/no backups required feature was the single most important reason we switched to the Finance Manager piece of PTO Manager. We had a situation a couple of years ago where the Treasurer's computer crashed and burned, and she had no backups. It took her months to recreate the data, and we had no finance info at all during that time--which created huge problems.

The other advantage of Finance Manager is consistency. One year you'll have a Treasurer who owns Quicken, so they do everything on Quicken. Next year you'll have someone who just uses Excel. Then the next Treasurer wants to use Money. You have to get used to new formats and it takes a long time to get everything transitioned and set up in the new year. Or you'll use an unlicensed out of date copy of something that keeps getting handed down from year to year, then when there's a problem with the software, the company won't support it and you're out of luck. With Finance Manager, you'll always have the latest version of the software, the records/reports are in a consistent format from year to year, and you have easy access to competent (and patient) support people.

One of my biggest gripes is the PTOManager name. I live in the middle of PTA land, and getting people to look at anything with the dreaded PTO letters in it is, uh, challenging to say the least.
17 years 2 months ago #136047 by angelawvt
Replied by angelawvt on topic RE: Value of Software?
I'm a software engineer "by day" so I tend to spend a lot of time looking around at different off-the-shelf software offerings vs. what I would spend myself, and I did that for quite awhile with the PTO manager package. What I found was that in order to have any kind of database that is centralized and accessible by anyone who is organizing an event, you would plan on spending $500/year or more.

We started with the volunteer builder, and it has really helped us get our member and interest information under control. It's much simpler to get volunteers for events if you can quickly pick out those who have that interest and send them a targetted email, and it's invaluable for our group to be able to have more than one person be able to see volunteer data quickly and easily. As someone said on another post, it is not a perfect system, but I believe it's worth the money we spend. So much so that we're piloting the finance manager this year.
17 years 3 months ago #135518 by antelala
Replied by antelala on topic RE: Value of Software?
I have to say that the Volunteer Builder is a great tool for PTO's. Unfortunaly our group did not use it to it's full advantage last year. We purchased BOTH Volunteer Builder and Finance Manager, however I was the only one that use it (Volunteer Builder). I agree, the software is a bit pricy, but if you use it to it's full advantage could be worth it. I have convinced my group to try Volunteer Builder one more time... now that we have enlisted more help with the group and set up I think it will work to our advantage. If you can get your chairpersons to use it, it will help a lot! What's nice is that you can look up volunteers by specific events/duties/classroom/teachers/grade level/etc. And send out emails specifically to that group. You can also set the Volunteer Builder to send out email reminders before an event.

Every year our group sends out a volunteer form that parents can specify what they are willing to help with through out the year. Basicly everything on the form is listed on the Volunteer Builder. This year we added a line that said "I would like to recieve JLE updates via email ___Yes ___No" and I would say about 3/4 of the forms that came back said "Yes". So I have added "email updates" to the Volunteer Builder. This will allow us to send out a mass email to everyone who has checked that. My thought is that most parents are not willing to commit to something so early in the year... but may be more willing to offer their help around/when the event actually occurs.
17 years 3 months ago #135454 by Onyx Blackmon
Can anyone testify as to the value of this software? $200/yr. is a very big hit for a school like ours. Are there other ways to do the functions of this software, such as a Yahoo! group?
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