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Principal's decision to change from PTO to HSA

15 years 11 months ago #146964 by yummymummy
GJ--Yes, your point is well taken. I was hoping the Church was taking a more active, genuine approach in upping their enrollment these days, that is beyond spin.

Btw, my family is not Catholic but my child attends a Catholic School due to our local limited school choice. My family has already reached a decision, we won't be returning to our current school next year on the basis of the censorship I am witnessing. It is very concerning that any American school, would seek to control individual thought, productive exchange of ideas and spirit, in this day and age!

So grateful PTO Today exists...I have shared the site with many families from our school and others within our community. The information and variety of topics are very relevant and brilliant. Thank you for offering your knowledge and advice!

ym
15 years 11 months ago #146963 by gjcoram
I know in MA, back around the clergy sex abuse scandal time, there was some question as to how much information the church had to disclose, and it ended up being: not much.
15 years 11 months ago #146959 by yummymummy
Thanks JHB and GJ! I appreciate your replies and good advice. Our families and teachers are a good bunch--positive, energetic and involved! I believe it is within our values together that we will do our utmost to stick together, aim for resolution, whilst keeping our children's best interests in the forefront. Saying that, we don't want to be anyone's fools either! We are still searching for our constitutional rights of voice...Thanks again!!

ym
15 years 11 months ago #146958 by yummymummy
Hi Tim,
Thanks for your reply. Indeed, our school is a Catholic School and, as you aptly described, (often) frustratingly so!

Following the earlier thread advice, I've been exploring IRS guidelines of non-profits. The term transparency keeps popping up. I realize firsthand, Catholic Schools are an entity of their own but was wondering if parents/families are regarded 'customers of sorts', would Church schools be required to show themselves as 'transparent' for the purpose of charity, contributions, related info, etc.?

Earlier this year, our school's parents, in good faith raised funds for the purpose of aiding our teachers and our children's activities beyond tuition prior to the formation of HSA. Monies were never realized toward this end. Currently, our raised funds are no longer being directed to our intended purposes or contributors' awareness, for that matter. Am I being too simplistic--Is this legal?

ym
15 years 11 months ago #146953 by Rockne
yummymummy -

Assuming this is a Catholic school, it is a different ballgame, sometimes frustratingly so.

I'd wager your original group was not independent of the school (most parochial parent groups are not), but even if it were, the Principal in a parochial setting has a lot more power than the principal in a public school. Broken down the public school principal works for parents. Parents vote for school board; school board hires super; super hires principal. Further, facing conflict public school parents have every right to -- for example -- have meetings among parents at the local library or coffee shop. Public school principals have a lot of control, but there remains some ammo in the parents' guns.

At the Catholic school level typically, parents don't have that ammo. The parent is in effect a customer who's option is to take it, try to change it (with no guarntees) or leave. Fight it too much, and you could even be asked to leave. In my opinion, Catholic school administrators have been slower than public to understand and embrace what effective involvement policies can do for a school and the kids. It's changing, but -- not surprisingly -- slowly.

So can your principal do what she did? Probably. Should she have? Probably not.

What can you guys do about it? Try and educate and stay involved and create partnerships. Tough as that can be.

Tim

PTO Today Founder
15 years 11 months ago #146952 by gjcoram
I don't know if parochial schools are automatically tax exempt, but PTOs certainly aren't automatically. If you are incorporated, this would be on file with the state (secretary of the commonwealth in Massachusetts). As JHB says, the IRS would answer on 501c3; you'd need the PTO's EIN (tax ID number) and/or its official name. Do you have a bank account? What's the name on the account?

JHB's got good suggestions on meeting for common ground; regardless of the name, surely the principal wants involvement by the parents who care enough to put time into it. It's not encouraging, though, that the principal has shut off common means of communication.
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