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Another Election Question??

18 years 5 months ago #61578 by CrewChief
Here's exactly what my bylaws say about removal:

Section 5 – Removal

Any officer or agent, such as a committee chair, may be removed by the Board whenever in its judgment the best interests of the PTO would be served thereby. The method of removal shall be by 2/3 vote at a regular or properly called meeting at which a quorum is present.

Some people come into our lives and quickly go. Some stay for awhile and leave footprints on our hearts. And we are never, ever the same."

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18 years 5 months ago #61577 by CrewChief
dillon5 - it sounds like you're getting good advice. I, too, agree that the position is open. I like dlf's suggestion on how to fill the position.

I personally would find ways to separate your group from this person. Her public actions are unsupportive and potentially damaging. And this is the first person to contact your volunteers? I'd be very worried about that.

My bylaws have a clause specific to removing an officer. If you're considering revising your elections clauses, maybe you would also consider adding a 'removal from office' clause as well.

Some people come into our lives and quickly go. Some stay for awhile and leave footprints on our hearts. And we are never, ever the same."

"The ultimate aim of karate lies not in victory or defeat but in the true perfection of one's character."
18 years 5 months ago #61576 by dlf
Replied by dlf on topic RE: Another Election Question??
I'm thinking I'd consider the position still vacant. Move with the board to readvertise the position and then nominate the person that is interested and vote her in at the next meeting. You can keep the 1st person ont he ballot or remove her if she doesn't request a renomination....d
18 years 5 months ago #61575 by pals
we also have it in our bylaws that they must be present to be elected as well as attend 85% of meetings and events. I know on the school board if you miss three meetings in a row you are out...something to look at.

"When you stop learning you stop growing."
18 years 5 months ago #61574 by Renee S
Replied by Renee S on topic RE: Another Election Question??
In my by-laws, you have to be present to be nominated and at the election. If no one voted yes, then she's not voted in. Since you've had so much trouble in the past then let some else who is willing to do the job be voted in.

My by-laws also have this clause:
Officers:
1. Any officer or chairman with excessive absents, without good cause, misconduct in office or failure to perform their duties, shall be replaced & notified 10 days in advance of his/her impending replacement.

You may want to amend your by-laws about the election process (must be present...) and what to do about too many absents and failure to do job.

Good luck!
18 years 5 months ago #61573 by dillons5
Another Election Question?? was created by dillons5
OK. I hope I can make this post make sense. Sorry if it's too long!
We had elections last week. We take nominations from all members and call each nominee to accept. Then a slate of candidates is sent home 30 days prior to elections. No nominees are taken from the floor. Our bylaws say nothing about being present at the voting, just that you have to accept the nomination and that's done ahead of time.
We only had one nominee per position so we did a voice vote. One position, the committee chairperson, is one we had serious problems with this past year. The person rarely showed up but always called to tell us so we couldn't take any action about that. Then when she volunteered to do something, it hardly ever got done which left the 2 of us that did most everything to pick up her leftovers. The committee chairperson is in charge of keeping up with volunteer names, contacting volunteers and helping committees get started. I (as Pres) got complaints all year about "I never got called to volunteer" or "you never have enough volunteers". Of course, I was polite and didn't place blame but I'm sure it gave the impression of the "PTO clique" because mostly officers worked events. This wasn't our choice but when the committee chairperson didn't do her job, who else was going to run an event at the last minute?
Anyway, at the election meeting, the nominee for that position didn't show up! I called her 20 minutes after the meeting was supposed to start and she said she forgot. So we went ahead with the meeting and she assured me that she would be at our board meeting the next day. Well, when it came time to vote on her position, no one voted! Not one I or nay!! It was tabled for later by our principal. The next day, this lady was overheard by the incoming President badmouthing the PTO. (This isn't the first time, either). She was mad because we were selling concessions for field day but the principal wouldn't allow the cafeteria to sell their slushies. This lady also works in the cafeteria. Well, it wasn't our fault that they weren't allowed to sell but she didn't care. She refused to help us or even let her kids come to the concession stand. We let it go because we didn't have time to deal with it at the time.
When it came time for our board meeting that afternoon, guess who didn't show up? She didn't come, didn't let us know ahead of time even though we were all at school the whole day!
So, she's not officially elected in but not voted out either. We have a lady that wants to take the position. Our incoming Pres. is so mad, she just wants to give the position to the lady who volunteered after the fact.
My question is, can we do that? Our bylaws say nothing about not being at the elections, nor do they mention no votes either way. I've never had that problem. I decided to step back this time to VP, been pres. for 2 years. I wish now I'd just quietly stepped out completely. The year isn't even over and we're having problems next year already!
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