Well, I got my new start-up guide, and it looks like I can just check 'no' in the box about big donations.
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As far as contacting the state (FL) about the raffle regs, I'll do that later. I will be including that we do an occasional small scale raffle in the 1023.
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CapeDad - I live in Texas and also wondered that. We've looked into the raffle laws (yes, raffles are considered gaming here). But it seems to be a grey area as if there is any legal difference between a "raffle" and a "drawing" (what one of you called "Tricky Tray"). I sent a request to our Office of the Attorney General as to the official definition of "raffle". They danced around the question and ultimately said we would need to pose the question to our own lawyer for a legal interpretation.
So we're contining on with our own (layperson's) opinion that it's not a "raffle". The risk is pretty low that anyone would complain or that any action would ever be taken. Regulatory organizations like the IRS and state officials really don't want to waste their time enforcing this stuff on tiny organizations like ours.
I'm all for following the rules, but there's a point where it's better not to ask too many questions and just proceed with good intentions.
Note - I'm stating this more from the perspective of "do we need to comply with state raffle laws".
All of our items on the prize walk are donated and if it's something I want to walk for I could pay for everyone in my family to walk and try to win it, thus increasing my chances. Normally, walks are 25 cents but, if we have a high price item donated we may go as high as a $5.00 walk or any amount in between depending on the item. Seems to me that what you are talking about is pretty much the same deal. Instead of drawing a ticket we draw a # and if you are standing on it, you win the prize.
I just found my pamphlet it says that auctions are not considered charitable gaming. It states: Auction - Individuals bid on certain prizes until 1 person is the winning bidder. I don't see anything about tricky tray type games. This is for KY and is run through the Environmental and Public Protection Cabinet; Office of Charitable Gaming. I would find who that is in your area and ask.
Well, I found the raffle part in the online instructions:
"Line 3a. For purposes of this application, “bingo†is a game of chance played with cards that are generally printed with 5 rows of 5 squares each on which participants place markers to form a preselected pattern to win the game. Other gaming activities include pull-tabs, raffles, keno, split-the-pot, and other games of chance.
Describe these activities, including how often your bingo or other gaming activities are conducted, where they are conducted, and who conducts them. Also describe whether your workers are compensated. If workers are compensated, describe who receives compensation and how the amount is determined.
Revenue associated with these activities means gross revenue amounts.
Expenses associated with these activities means direct and indirect expenses. The dollar value of prizes should be included in expenses."
Still unsure on the tricky tray or donations.
Tricky tray, as I understand it, has people purchase tickets and place in the box/jar of the item that they want. The more they put in, the higher the chance of winning the item. Is it a raffle?
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Not sure how a Tricky Tray works. I just know that there was a list of games and activities that were excluded and all of our festival activities were on it; cake/prize walks, basket auction, duck pond, guess how many games....... Rules may be different from state to state.????? It was all really confusing. I'm glad we didn't have to do it.
Originally posted by ptohyeah: But, there was mention of Bingo, raffles, and pull-tabs as charitable gaming. There were limits and exclusions. I probably yawned through them! ha ha
This reminds me of something else -- does a tricky tray count as a raffle, too? We have not done it before, but we are thinking about it.
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