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501(c)(3) paperwork

21 years 10 months ago #57271 by Rockne
Replied by Rockne on topic RE: 501(c)(3) paperwork
Depends on your state, jepto.

In some states, it's automatic -- meaning federal 501c3 status is ggod enough to be sales tax exempt. In other states it is not. In that case, you will want to follow your state process as well.

Tim

PTO Today Founder
21 years 10 months ago #57270 by jepto
Replied by jepto on topic RE: 501(c)(3) paperwork
So, after we receive confirmation from the IRS that our tax exempt status has been approved we should apply to the state to be sales tax exempt?
21 years 10 months ago #57269 by JHB
Replied by JHB on topic RE: 501(c)(3) paperwork
It took about 6 weeks when we did ours, but as Tim stated, it can vary. For changes and questions along the way, the IR rep would just call. When everything was complete, the IRS sent us a "Letter of Advance Ruling". It's a computer generated letter about 3 pages long. (I've also heard it referred to as a "1045 Letter" or a "Letter of Recognition".)

You'll want to save this letter as documention of your status. We've had to provide copies when we refiled for sales tax exemption and when we've applied for a charitable bingo license. You may also need copies of it if you apply for grants.

Here's an example of a letter someone posted on the Internet (nothing to do with PTO's)

www.apert-international.org/irs/index.html

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21 years 10 months ago #57268 by Rockne
Replied by Rockne on topic RE: 501(c)(3) paperwork
Two key notes:

1. The time between application and approval varies (I often hear 2-3 months), but the most importnat fact is that -- once you're approved, you're approval is retroactive back to your date of application or the date your group started (if it's a relatively new group).

2. JHB's infois great. For an even more detailed walk through the 501c3 app and incorporating and getting insurance, etc. -- our NPN expert guide on PTO Start-Up is a great resource. www.PTOtoday.com/npn

Good luck,

Tim

PTO Today Founder
21 years 10 months ago #57267 by jepto
Replied by jepto on topic RE: 501(c)(3) paperwork
From the time you mailed the paperwork to approval from the IRS, how long did it take? Also, what exactly does the IRS send to notify that you are exempt?
21 years 10 months ago #57266 by MBPTO
Replied by MBPTO on topic RE: 501(c)(3) paperwork
Quite some time ago I found the exact information you are looking for on this site. Since I knew I would have a hard time locating it again, I saved the information as a word document. I have copied and pasted the file below. Best of luck!

Several of you are asking me for specifics on what my group filled out, what forms we used when we finalized the 501(c)(3) process last year. I am not an accountant; however, to save a few dozen individual emails, here is a record of exactly WHAT we submitted, question by question; oftentimes what the IRS rep instructed me to write down.
We sent in:
Form 8718 with a check for $500
Form 872-C
Form 1023 (pages 1-9) – no schedules
Attachments – Membership Form & Signed Constitution/Bylaws
Form 1023
Note – I had all the text saved in Word and a handwritten copy of the forms with answers penciled in. Then I sat down and used the “fill in” version of the IRS forms to complete it with a computer. You can’t save it unless you have the paid version of Adobe, but you can print it. (Or maybe you write neater than I do and just want to do it by hand!)
Answers below are OUR answers. I supposed most of it will be similar for many of you. However you need to decide what to put where based on your circumstances.
Part I [Most of this is pretty obvious. Be sure in question 4, the answer corresponds with your what’s in your by-laws.]
Part II – (1-4b) Suggest typing the narrative in Word until you get it as you like it, then cut and paste it in. (You could also do it as an attachment.) It’s too long to type here, but I’ve listed a synopsis of what WE put:
1 Listed each of the following with a short paragraph describing
* Coordinating Volunteer Participation to Support School Programs (30%)
* Hosting extra-curricular activities that support family involvement (25%)
* Supporting school activities and increasing school spirit (20%)
* Raising funds for supplemental services, equipment, and supplies (20%)
* Supporting the school administration. (5%)
2.
*Fall Fundraiser (catalog sales) 85-95% – note they called me to ask what this meant
*Spring event (carnival/auction/games) – family event
*Membership fees (token amount only - $3 per family per year)
3. Wrote a paragraph about the Fundraising committee and it’s plans.
4c No
4d No
5 No, Yes, The organization exists to support {school name}
6 Yes, The only organization with which it would be involved is {school name}, which is tax exempt, but not a 501(c)(3). The PTO performs services and fundraisings, and, of course, utilizes school facilities for school events.
7 No – No, however, our records are available to the school or parents, if requested.
8 Only asset would be a checking account to hold PTO funds
9 No
10 No, No
11 Yes
11a Any family with a child at [school name] may join for [$ amount] per family per year. Membership fees for teachers and staff are waived.
11b The PTO sends flyers home to parents and announces membership opportunity at school events.
11c The primary benefit is the knowledge that the family has made a commitment to serving the school by being part of the PTO. Members do receive a free student directory, available to others for a $3 purchase price.
12a N/A
12 b Yes. All benefits and services are directed to the school and students (not just PTO members). However, our programs do not generally extend beyond the school.
13 No
14 No
Attachment – included copy of our membership form labeled as an attachment for 11b.
Part III
1 Yes (note – if your answer is “no” you need to answer 2-6. I think common sense answers will get you by)
7 No
8 skip
9 h (NOTE – IRS told me this was the one PTOs should use)
10 Depending on if you’ve been around more than 8 months, you might put
“No” and skip 11-14. In our case, IRS had me fill out:
10 Yes, Advanced ruling,
11 n/a.
12 skip
13 skip
14 “no” to all
Part IV
I did a very simple 3 year budget (Revenue & Expenses), wrote in the years and “see attached” in each column. Included it as an attachment
Part V
[All we had is cash. So I just put our current checking balance on line 1 and 11. Zero Liabilities. Total same as line 1]

Mistakes we made/corrections needed
1)“Month annual accounting period ends” did not match our fiscal year in Constitution (fixed, re-sent page)
2)They needed “catalog sales” explained (explained on phone)
3)Dissolution clause in by-laws said if PTO disbanded all assets would go to the school. Did not say what would happen if SCHOOL ceased to exist. IRS has some boilerplate language they want used. We had to send an “agreement to amend” signed by two board members that we would amend the constitution at the next general meeting
4)We signed the last page (not a blank page) of our constitution/bylaws. Technically, these are two documents, so we signed the Bylaws, but not the constitution. IRS had us send a statement signed by two board members that both the constitution and bylaws provided with the application were adopted on XYZ date.
The IRS was really great. Once they started reviewing it, things went very quickly. A couple of calls as they found things wrong. They’d tell me exactly what to do to fix it, fax me wording to use, etc.
One more time, I’m not attempting to dispense accounting advice. I’m merely providing an example of what we did. Good luck to all of you – it wasn’t that bad!
Joy
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