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Parent/staff issue

16 years 2 months ago #144790 by JHB
Replied by JHB on topic RE: Parent/staff issue
Caryn - I too am sorry this was a problem for you. But re-reading my past advice, it may have seemed more heavily slanted towards "don't do this" than I had intended.

We also have had staff successfully be active volunteers. But I'm well aware that a situation that works fine one time can fall apart another time or with different people.

My intent was just to say it was wise to explore possible conflicts and steer clear of those. But I didn't mean to imply you should avoid having staff volunteers.
16 years 2 months ago #144789 by dlf
Replied by dlf on topic RE: Parent/staff issue
Caryn--I'm sorry this hasn't worked out for you but I have to offer that our PTO has had full and part time employees on our board since it's inception and there has never been a issue of the sort you are relaying. I'm not sure what the difference in the dynamic was/is for us but we found our full time employees to be an addition to our group vice a problem.

I hope you are able to sort through your groups issues and wish you luck...
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16 years 2 months ago #144781 by Caryn9800
Replied by Caryn9800 on topic RE: Parent/staff issue
Well JHB and President JIM, you were right. This situation has turned into a huge conflict of interest. The principal uses the employer/employee relationship to influence club decisions and it has turned into a disaster. Our student store has been closed and every little detail gets reported to the principal.

Let this be a warning to anyone and everyone. Don't let school employees become officers in your club, even if they are simply occasional substitutes. Our club is in serious trouble.
17 years 3 weeks ago #138885 by PresidentJim
Replied by PresidentJim on topic RE: Parent/staff issue
One point that I would agree that could be considered a colflict is teacher appreciation. More than likely this parent/staff member would not cause an issue, but I have heard of staff members being the President or a chair of the Teacher Appreciation committee and it causing problems.

Other than that, I don't see how it is your concern. As long as she never causes issues, such as rumors or negative connotations, then no big deal.

Good luck.
PresidentJim
17 years 3 weeks ago #138858 by JHB
Replied by JHB on topic RE: Parent/staff issue
I think you are smart to be exploring this. Not so much that you should restrict activities, but more so that you are attempting to head off any problems and set boundaries. Not only do you want to protect the PTO; you want to protect your volunteer by not inadvertently placing her in an uncomfortable situation further down the line. As a volunteer, she answers to the PTO. But as a teacher, she answers to the Principal. There are some roles that might pose conflicts.

Our bylaws do not allow an elected officer to be an employee of the campus or a management level employee of the district. (I'm not concerned with the legality of employee versus contractor. If you go with the intent, a frequent sub would fit the same category.)

But that still leaves lots of room for involvement - and possible room for problems. I would consult the principal for input. Ours had specific PTO jobs they didn't want teachers to do even when they were also parents.

Watch for potential job conflicts. There may be a school policy that an employee not handle funds (be treasurer) for a parent organization. In a particular role, say school store coordinator, a parent might often be on campus during the day as a volunteer. If that parent is also an employee or a sub - is her coordinator role convenient because she is on campus anyway or is it a disruption to the job she is being paid to do? (It could be either.)

Another concern is dealings with the principal. We got along great with ours. But from time to time, we didn't see eye to eye or he reluctantly went along with something the group wanted but he didn't personally support. There was a time or two when his attiitude or decision was WRONG. (Aside from being wonderful, he was also human and therefore not perfect.) As a parent, I could challenge him. But if he were my BOSS?? Some activities are more likely to be stressful like that. You don't want to put a teacher in that position.

Good luck with this. I'm sure it will work out fine, but it's good that you are considering all the angles.
17 years 3 weeks ago #138854 by OneandOnly
Replied by OneandOnly on topic RE: Parent/staff issue
I don't see a conflict. Although she is subbing in your school, she is first a parent to the students. She is not holding an executive board position as a teacher so there is no conflict unless your bylaws state the contrary.

Try and look at the positive: As a sub, she can find out what the teachers are saying--what they like and dislike about what's going on in the school, what they need, what they wish they had in the school. She can be your eyes and ears to get ideas of how the PTO can best help the teachers and students of the school.

Doing it for my one and only ~~ my son!
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